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by mediatechnology
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:05 am
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
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Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

A picture is worth a thousand words... For future reference I found this linear domain versus log domain filter comparison in Fred Floru's AES paper. https://proaudiodesignforum.com/images/jpg/Linear_Vs_Log_Domain_Filter.JPG Linear vs. log-domain filter The diodes in the final stage of the RMS detec...
by mediatechnology
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

IIRC both DBX and Paul Buff made wide range dB meters back in the day. Both probably used VCAs and companding inside to deliver wide dynamic range (my speculation). Sorry for yet another veer... ;) JR You sent me the data sheet for the Valley People meter I've been meaning to scan. I think I have a...
by mediatechnology
Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:50 am
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

I found the companding RMS detector post: https://proaudiodesignforum.com/forum/php/viewtopic.php?p=17023&#p17023 With Ct doubled (due to 2:1 companding) the timing characteristics are identical to the THAT2252. Note that the input to the RMS detector from the VCA output has no resistor - both a...
by mediatechnology
Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

The THAT300's rbb is 32Ω typical. I'm not sure I've ever seen the rbb spec for the CA3046 or CA3086. I'm currently using TL072B for the op amps. I don't need great low-level performance and I think it would be challenged if it were used in a compander. I need to find the post but I built a companded...
by mediatechnology
Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:10 pm
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

I lowered the value of Rin to 33K2 to give myself some additional trim range.
It varies slightly between channels but at the wiper I'm measuring about 260 mV (-9.5 dBu) for an input current of about 7.8 uA.

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by mediatechnology
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

I saw Rt but discounted it. 8.3 uA x 49.5k is down a few dB from typical 0VU (around 0.4V) discounting the parallel junctions. Never mind... JR OK, got it. The normalized "0" is less than 0 dBu because there's a -6dB line receiver in the circuit it was taken from. The trim needs to offer ...
by mediatechnology
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:43 am
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

Wouldn't subtracting a reference 0VU current from the common emitters (Sym adj probe node) deliver a + and - voltage relative to 0VU threshold? It may need an offset subtracted to account for two pairs in parallel. JR Not sure I completely follow the question but an existing reference current sink ...
by mediatechnology
Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:24 pm
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array
Replies: 50
Views: 52245

Re: THAT2252 RMS Detector Replacement Using A THAT300 Array

The Uno Compressor spawned an improved THAT2252 replacement which is a "0 Vbe-up" design having a 0V output when the input is at the reference current. The gain of 2 amplifiers, which square the log of the absolute value, are level-shifted down by one Vbe. If not for this level-shift, the ...
by mediatechnology
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:56 am
Forum: Pro Audio Design
Topic: A Quadrature Power-Summed Compressor Sidechain For "The Uno Compressor"
Replies: 60
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Re: A Quadrature Power-Summed Compressor Sidechain For "The Uno Compressor"

I've updated the drawing - which I'll post later - that includes the audio signal path, metering and sidechain on two sheets. For the moment I'll be pulling out all of the component designators in the drawing and reassigning them from the layout. It's a little tedious that way but it makes manual DI...