Mid Side M-S Matrix Uses No Precision Resistors
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Thanks for the report. I've been messing with the software version of this in DP for various mastering processes, and found that starting at -6 is a given with everything I've tried. I admit to missing that detail in previous readings here, and it's definitely proven to be a brick wall one must navigate.
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I also tried the precision bypass mode and the crosstalk improved. I swapped the L&R channels from prior measurements. By hand picking 1246/1240 combinations I can make the L to R as good as the R to L numbers. Unfortunately on this prototype the left channel 1246 is soldered to a flying lead. The "worst" case however is still better than - 70 dB.
The right channel at -90 dB is pretty good. The rising characteristic of the crosstalk beginning at 2 kHz occurs in the soundcard and leads.
I also double-checked the encoder headroom with mono input. If the encoder balanced output is de-balanced to single-ended, by grounding the 1646's output, the input headroom becomes approx. +17 dBu. The 1646 adds 6 dB of gain and clips at ~+23 dBu single-ended (18V). This reduces the input headroom by 6 dB. When the 1646 outputs are fully-balanced however there is 6 dB of added headroom.
The right channel at -90 dB is pretty good. The rising characteristic of the crosstalk beginning at 2 kHz occurs in the soundcard and leads.
I also double-checked the encoder headroom with mono input. If the encoder balanced output is de-balanced to single-ended, by grounding the 1646's output, the input headroom becomes approx. +17 dBu. The 1646 adds 6 dB of gain and clips at ~+23 dBu single-ended (18V). This reduces the input headroom by 6 dB. When the 1646 outputs are fully-balanced however there is 6 dB of added headroom.
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I ordered new prototype boards yesterday which should be here Friday. Thanks for updating the layout Roger!
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I had a chance to build the latest version with the added 1240 in the decoder. It works great.
This particular board is wired for single ended L&R inputs and outputs. The jumpers can be seen on the left-hand and right-hand side of the board. The insert connection, in the middle of the photo is fully balanced.
I'll be posting crosstalk figures soon.
This particular board is wired for single ended L&R inputs and outputs. The jumpers can be seen on the left-hand and right-hand side of the board. The insert connection, in the middle of the photo is fully balanced.
I'll be posting crosstalk figures soon.
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Lookin' good!
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Doug Williams
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Great stuff Wayne!
Can wait to put a few of these in my console.
Can wait to put a few of these in my console.
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Thanks guys. I need to run a few more tests and then I'll order us some boards with silkscreen and solder mask.
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Great news. I'm in for eight.
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Cool, I was regularly lurking to this thread.
I'm always impressed by the quantity of work you guys can do
If some pcb's are coming, I'm in for 2.
Cheers
I'm always impressed by the quantity of work you guys can do
If some pcb's are coming, I'm in for 2.
Cheers